An Uncommon Friendship: From Opposite Sides of the Holocaust

An Uncommon Friendship: From Opposite Sides of the Holocaust

An Uncommon Friendship: From Opposite Sides of the Holocaust

An Uncommon Friendship: From Opposite Sides of the Holocaust

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Overview

In 1944, 13-year-old Fritz Tubach was almost old enough to join the Hitler Youth in his German village of Kleinheubach. That same year in Tab, Hungary, 12-year-old Bernie Rosner was loaded onto a train with the rest of the village’s Jewish inhabitants and taken to Auschwitz, where his whole family was murdered. Many years later, after enjoying successful lives in California, they met, became friends, and decided to share their intimate story—that of two boys trapped in evil and destructive times, who became men with the freedom to construct their own future, with each other and the world. In a new epilogue, the authors share how the publication of the book changed their lives and the lives of the countless people they have met as a result of publishing their story.

Product Details

ISBN-13: 9780520261310
Publisher: University of California Press
Publication date: 01/12/2010
Edition description: First Edition, With a New Epilogue
Pages: 340
Sales rank: 898,689
Product dimensions: 5.40(w) x 8.20(h) x 0.80(d)

About the Author

Bernat Rosner is retired General Counsel of the Safeway Corporation in Oakland, California. Frederic C. Tubach is Professor Emeritus of German at the University of California, Berkeley. Sally Patterson Tubach is the author of Memoirs of a Terrorist.

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Chapter One

The Return of the Past


We humanize what is going on in the world and
in ourselves only by speaking of it, and in the
course of speaking of it we learn to be human.

HANNAH ARENDT


The end of the journey came five days after the train left Kaposvar. People spilled out of crammed cattle cars onto the platform of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp on a foggy morning in July 1944. The bodies of those who had died were left behind in cars whose heavy sliding doors had been barred shut the entire trip with iron and barbed wire. The only light had filtered through narrow ventilation slats, and the terrified victims now blinked in the daylight, looking for friends and family members on the platform. They shouted out names in Hungarian—Pista, Jozsi, Sanyi, Kato. But SS guards ordered silence, striking with rifle butts anyone who was too slow to stop searching for a familiar face or calling out names.

    Twelve-year-old Bernat Rosner was unloaded from a cattle car together with his father, mother, and younger brother. Bernat tried to hold onto the family's small pile of possessions and to keep it separate from the others. He caught a brief glimpse of his Uncle Willy and of Jenö, one of his older cousins and playmates back home. But then he lost sight of them in the crowd.

    All of those who had been designated car "leaders" before their departure by the SS crew in charge of the deportation were ordered to report to the camp authorities. As the leader of their freight car,Bernat's father did so, and disappeared—forever. Bernat and his ten-year-old brother, Alexander, soon joined the men and boys, but not before their mother admonished them to stick together. Then she too vanished forever, like their father had just a short while earlier. Now the two brothers stood in a group of males on the platform in the camp—a desolate, flat place surrounded by a heavy chain-link fence, topped with coils of barbed wire.


* * *


In summer 1983 I was invited to dinner at the home of Bernat Rosner, Auschwitz survivor and husband of my wife's high school friend. Sally had run into her friend again by chance after twenty years. When Susan Rosner asked us for dinner at their house, I reflected on the fact that most Germans of my generation and younger had not known any Jews personally—or, if so, only fleetingly—because when we were young in Germany, the Jews among us were removed from our midst and exterminated. As a German American, I returned to the United States, studied and worked at the University of California, and lived among Americans, some of whom were Jewish.

    During my years in Berkeley, I met only a few concentration camp survivors. One such encounter took place in the staging area of an academic procession near the campanile on campus. I paired up with a Czech lecturer waiting in a crowd of professors for a march to the Greek Theater, where a graduation or a visiting dignitary was to be celebrated. The woman, in her late thirties and with chestnut hair, was a friendly colleague on the fifth floor of Dwinelle Hall. My office was in the German Department, and hers was around the corner in the Slavic Department, which we both referred to jokingly as "the Polish corridor." There, at the base of the campanile, we were all wearing our academic robes and mortarboards, and the atmosphere was festive. I was shocked when the San Francisco Bay breeze suddenly raised the sleeve of her gown to reveal a concentration camp number on her arm. It contained, among other digits, a seven, with the characteristic German side cross over the down stroke. Looking back, I have sometimes wondered whether I offended her by asking where and when she was so marked. Her answer was simple: "Auschwitz." Then she continued to talk about other things in a casual manner. She also bore a deep half-moon scar on her chin that might well have been inflicted on her by a jackbooted guard; but at the time I couldn't bear to put the two things together in my mind.

    I felt apprehensive about the upcoming evening with my wife's old schoolmate and her husband. It would have been easier to watch a documentary film or to participate in an academic discussion on the rise of Nazism and the Holocaust. This dinner for four could be attended by uninvited guests—any of the dead members of his family or of mine. Perhaps my distant uncle, who had been an SS officer in charge of a refugee camp near Würzburg and hanged by the surviving inmates at the end of the war, might appear. Or perhaps my own father in his Nazi Party uniform would join us for dinner, or my host's father and mother as they emerged from the ashes of the crematorium.

    When I was introduced to Bernie, as he now called himself, I was convinced that he was older than I. He looked worn out from his job as general counsel of the Safeway grocery chain headquartered in Oakland. His days at the corporate head offices were obviously more hectic than mine as a professor at the university in nearby Berkeley. No wonder. The revolutionary days of the 1960s and 1970s had passed. The campus atmosphere was more "academic," though Berkeley never became a tranquil place for quiet contemplation. But Bernie was the lead attorney in a field where the financial stakes were high. We had our battles at the university, too, but as Henry Kissinger once described the paradox at Harvard, university turf wars were fierce because the stakes were low.

    Although the subject of concentration camps didn't come up over dinner, I couldn't help thinking about it. I noticed that Bernie had light blue eyes. Words from the "Todesfuge" (Death Fugue) of the Jewish poet Paul Celan, an Auschwitz survivor who later committed suicide in Paris, crowded in on me: "Der Tod ist ein Meister aus Deutschland sein Auge ist blau" (Death is a master from Germany his eye is blue). I repeated them several times to myself, re-creating in my mind the ritual intensity with which they are repeated in the poem. As a child I was told that I had inherited the blue eyes of my mother, who died before the war, when I was three years old.

    From these self-absorbed reveries, I looked again at our dinner host and decided that perceptions were a result of the moment. Now it seemed to me that he had the upturned mouth of Frank Sinatra and could easily pass for his first cousin, if not his brother. No hint of Auschwitz there. I noted that he and I, both on the short side, were just about the same height. He was slight and wiry, while I had to watch my weight. What little hair he had left was sandy brown, while I had all my dark but graying hair. I probably looked more "Jewish" than he did to those who saw people as stereotypes. My mind drifted to my father, who told me once of being terribly afraid of a barber in Germany who had asked if he was Jewish. My father denied it, insisting that appearances can be deceptive, but he had the feeling the barber didn't believe him and would have liked to have cut his throat with the straight-edged razor he used to shave him. The dinner conversation with the Rosners escaped me for a short time, but no one seemed to notice my silence. And my free associations about blue eyes, appearances, and barbers faded away. In reality, Bernie is a year younger than I am.

    As it turned out, the hours passed quickly during that mild summer evening in northern California, when the setting sun suffuses the air with a pale yellow tinge. World War II was two generations behind us. The past seemed far away. We stayed late to sip cognac and watch a sampling of Bernie's video collection of grand opera. The Rosners had a large-screen television, and with several remote controls Bernie could tune in the finest arias of Mozart or Verdi. Classical music enveloped the living room as we listened to excerpts from Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier. Who, at our age, would not be touched by the Marschallin's musings on time as a wondrous thing—"Die Zeit ist ein sonderbar' Ding." Wouldn't it be best for both of us to just surround our pasts with the detached glow of great music?


* * *


After this first dinner, I didn't know whether we would see the Rosners again. But when we reciprocated the invitation and they accepted, we began to develop a pleasant, if superficial, suburban friendship. At first our wives encouraged and held it together. They had shared an upper-middle-class background in southern California and had some common friends from the high school they attended in Pacific Palisades in the early 1960s. As couples we had similar interests—in good food and wine, tennis, travel, culture, and contemporary affairs. When it came to our pasts, Bernie and I could easily talk about our early childhoods. It turned out that we both grew up in European villages. Bernie was born and raised in the Hungarian village of Tab, located southwest of Budapest, where his parents cultivated and sold fruit and walnuts. And although I had been born in San Francisco, I also grew up from the age of three in a village—Kleinheubach, on the Main River, about 75 kilometers southeast of Frankfurt. We both knew the lazy days of summer when nothing moved during the midday heat aside from the swallows that swarmed with high-pitched screeches over red-tiled roofs or flew low over the cobblestones to signal the arrival of a late afternoon thunderstorm. Growing up in a village gives you a special sense of place and the physical appearance of things: the polish of smooth-worn stone steps; the penetrating smell of wax and Lysol in the school buildings; the fierce look of the scarecrows that were supposed to protect the cherries on the neighbor's trees but instead frightened small children far more than the pesky, ever-present sparrows.

    Though small, the villages of our youth were connected to the outside world by trains that stopped several times a day. This limited traffic didn't prevent weeds from growing up between some of the tracks. Because we knew the train schedule, we could use the tracks as a shortcut to the nearest fishing pond, thereby avoiding the dusty roads. Our villages had few lights, so that day and night were sharply demarcated, as were the seasons. A quiet life characterized our early childhoods.

    But the parallels in our lives ended abruptly one day in spring 1944 when the SS and their Hungarian Nazi henchmen arrived in Tab and deported the twelve-year-old Bernie, his family, and the other Jewish inhabitants to Auschwitz. In the summer of that same year in Kleinheubach, when I was thirteen, I was a member of the Jungvolk and slated to become a Hitler Youth. My father, a full-time employee of the Nazi Party, became a lieutenant in the German army. Most of my family, including my father, survived the war. Bernie's family perished. He is its only survivor.


* * *


When you emigrate to America, you turn the pages of your life quickly. If you don't do it yourself, the country will do it for you, or you'll be "history," as they say. This is America. In contrast, a contemporary German writer recently stated that not a day had passed since Auschwitz. That is Germany. As our acquaintance deepened into a friendship, Bernie and I were caught for more than a decade between our European pasts and our American present, and neither early childhood memories nor the many things we now had in common were enough to bridge the divide that had existed between us during the years when Hitler was in power.


* * *


Bernie's experience of Auschwitz and the disappearance of his family and my German upbringing and Nazi father couldn't be discussed over dinner. I couldn't just say, "How was it?" or "Tell me about it, Bernie." There was no adequate way to broach the subject. But neither could we ignore these facts; they were close by, somehow, whenever we met. The Holocaust had become an important topic of academic research, but in spite of all the insights that have been gained, the distance between the trauma itself and present reflections on it has inevitably become greater. Once, during a cocktail party at our home, I happened to hear a well-known Berkeley professor mention to Bernie that he had just returned from a conference on Auschwitz in Hamburg. Bernie replied, "I was there—at Auschwitz, I mean." For a moment silence ensued, and then my learned colleague changed the subject. The gulf between the Auschwitz victim—an uncommonly articulate man—and the normally communicative scholar, well versed in the current academic discourses about the Holocaust, was striking. These two party guests had little to say to each other.

    After I had known Bernie for a year or so, Auschwitz drifted into our conversation inadvertently. But Bernie was reluctant to dwell on it. He told us, as he has told many people in America over the years, that he had lived two different lives—a childhood in Europe and an adulthood in America—and that the first life had nothing to do with the second. He obviously wanted to leave it at that.


* * *


At the end of one of our dinners—in fall 1989—the Rosners mentioned that they were planning to visit Hungary and Bernie's village, Tab, the following summer. They suggested that we join them, and we agreed. I was going to be on sabbatical in Europe, and we already had plans to see Hungarian friends in Budapest, so the timing was right. We decided to meet in Budapest and drive to Tab.

    When Sally and I reached Budapest in the late afternoon on the appointed day, we were delighted to find that our friends had arrived safely and were already in their room at the Hotel Buda. The next morning we spread a road map on the hood of our rented car and plotted the route from Budapest southwest to Tab. Sally, our designated driver, negotiated the Hungarian traffic while Bernie navigated us toward his native countryside. On the way we caught up on each other's lives. Bernie must have thought about it, but until we arrived at Tab, it seemed as if the rest of us had given little thought to the fact that we would be visiting not lust the village of his childhood but also the village from which he and his family had been forcibly torn by Nazis. Much later I realized that in proposing this trip, Bernie had emphasized the tourist aspects, since at that time he kept his life as Nazi victim far away, if not entirely from himself, certainly from the persona he presented to the outside world, including his friends and family. For Bernie and me, however, it turned out to be the beginning of a journey that took us far beyond the one-day trip to his native village.

    About an hour and a half out of Budapest, we approached Tab. Small side roads to orchards, plowed fields, and groves of trees, marked the rolling landscape. Once in Tab, we parked the car near the railroad station, and Bernie became our guide. Our vacation mood changed, and our animated conversation faded as the reality of Bernie's past came into focus. We walked slowly down the main street as if picking our way through a minefield laid down by history. Bernie oriented himself by identifying places where particular houses had stood many years ago. At the end of the street was a tavern of the type one finds all over Europe, filled with men who, over a late morning snort, tell each other how things are with the world. They hardly took notice of us as we entered to use the rest room, except to tell Bernie the way to the Jewish cemetery when he asked in his halting Hungarian.

    We walked up the dirt road that led past a row of modest houses. Between two of these houses, Bernie pointed to a broad flight of stone steps that stopped abruptly at the top of a slope where the synagogue had once stood. Now there was nothing—no memorial, no sign—just these steps, crumbling, deformed, and partially covered by clumps of grass. We made no effort to climb them. As a boy, Bernie must have trod them many times on his way to and from the building that had once stood there. I thought of the railroad tracks in Shoah that stopped at the entrance to the Treblinka extermination camp, tracks leading to a dead end, like these steps that now led only to an empty plot of earth and grass.

    We walked on, saying little. Gray clouds shifted over the distant fields. At the edge of the village we continued beyond the last houses on a dirt path that led to the Jewish cemetery. Enclosed within a rickety fence and partially bordered by trees, it was abandoned and overgrown with weeds. We forged our way through the surrounding hedges and a hole in the fence. Tall grass, still damp with morning dew, hid many of the grave sites. Bernie looked for names he might remember, names of family and friends, and found a few. Reading the stone slabs, he told us the profession of this or that person and related a few anecdotes in a matter-of-fact way—fragments of life from his normal childhood, before things changed. At one edge of the cemetery, almost hidden beneath the trees, we came across an abandoned coffin and cart that had been used to transport the deceased from the village to their burial place. The cart had been sturdily built, so that even with the passage of more than forty-five years the wooden planks were only partially rotted. Bernie became animated, as if he had made an archaeological discovery. He knew people who had been taken on this cart to their resting places. I felt an aversion to this smug Hungarian village for neglecting the cemetery, for allowing the coffin and cart to lie abandoned and exposed to the elements, for forgetting its former citizens and letting the weeds grow over their graves.

    Bernie asked us to leave him alone for a while in the cemetery. So Susan, Sally, and I made our way out through the broken fence, down to the main road, and headed back in the direction of the village below the constantly shifting clouds in a sky that was beginning to clear. We walked slowly so that Bernie could catch up with us. He seemed small and alone as he approached us from a distance. I realized that he may have been the only one of his people to have survived and to have revisited this village. To my amazement, he was striding lightly when he rejoined us. His step had an unexpected buoyancy. We talked about wholly different things, and I suddenly had the feeling that four American friends, whose present lives had hardly anything to do with this place, walked like tourists back toward the main street of Tab. I now know that Bernie wanted it that way.

    We made another stop at the tavern. The same men were still talking and drinking. Again, they seemed to take little notice of us. Would they have cared had they known why we had come to Tab? A couple of them might have been old enough to have known the twelve-year-old Bernat or his ten-year-old brother or his mother or father before they were taken away. Why weren't they more curious when they heard this foreign tourist speaking in broken Hungarian?

    The walk back down the main street seemed long. I thought of the three burial grounds in my childhood village of Kleinheubach—the Protestant cemetery, the most prominent and the one closest to the village center, the Catholic graveyard, next to a main road that used to be about a ten-minute walk beyond the last houses, and, finally, up on the east slope of the Odenwald, the Jewish cemetery, located in a forest, not unlike the graveyard in Tab. On my last visit to my village, I had taken a walk past the Jewish cemetery. Partially hidden behind high walls, it was locked up tightly. A German sign posted on the gate read, "Anyone defacing this cemetery will be punished by law." This warning was signed by a former mayor of Kleinheubach, Herr Lippert, who had been a member of the Waffen-SS during World War II.

    The main street of Tab brought us back to the railroad station. A semideserted, two-story building, its paint was peeling. Cobwebs hung across some of the doors. Printed signs were yellowed with age. This country station, which looked abandoned like so many train stops all over rural Europe, came to life even in 1990 only twice a day. As we approached, the station appeared quiet and forlorn. Just as in Bernie's youth, the building was inscribed with the word "TAB" in capital letters. Our car stood where we left it. The only sounds were the electric humming of summer crickets and the buzz of low-hanging telephone wires. The clouds were gone, and the sun beat down. Nothing moved. Silence enveloped us for a long moment. Cameras ready, the four of us stood there wondering what pictures to take before our departure. We decided to photograph ourselves, in front of the station and next to the partially overgrown railroad tracks.

    After the picture taking, I noticed that Bernie's eyes were fixed on a couple of run-down brick buildings dominated by a tall chimney near a stand of trees to the west. He didn't move except to raise his hands to shade his eyes from the glaring sunlight. Suddenly he said, "That's the brickyard. That's where the horrors began." No one spoke. As we climbed back into the car and drove away from the village, the fleeting remark hung there in the summer heat.


* * *


After our visit to Tab, various bits of conversations I had with Bernie about his past would run through my mind over the next few years. Despite this visit, I still had only fragmentary knowledge of his early life. He had never told his entire story to anyone, preferring to think that the Nazi terror had happened to a "Bernie" in quotation marks, a different Bernie. Would he someday trust me enough to tell me more? Perhaps our suburban California lifestyle was not conducive to such communication. Or was my German background an unspoken barrier? Yet his untold story, the "other side" of him that was closed to me, did not let go. He wanted it that way at first, because it helped him support the division he had made between his present and past lives. I, however, was left with a desire to build a bridge but few means to do so.

(Continues...)

Table of Contents

Foreword ix

Acknowledgments xi

1 The Return of the Past 1

2 Two European Villages 24

3 The Loss of Innocence 63

4 The Maelstrom: To Auschwitz and Beyond 82

5 Roads West 145

6 Careers: An American Story 199

7 Germany: Fifty Years Later 233

Coda 266

Epilogue 269

Notes 307

What People are Saying About This

From the Publisher

"[A] remarkable book."—Jewish Journal of S.florida

Interviews

Interview with Fritz Tubach


Could you briefly describe these double memoirs?

Fritz Tubach: The story of an "uncommon friendship"--that of a Jewish Hungarian-born survivor of Auschwitz and the son of a German Nazi officer who link their fates. I am the former German and the narrator of both our stories. In the book we try to come to grips with our radically different pasts.

Why did you write this book?

Tubach: The Holocaust assaulted everything that makes up the sanctity and uniqueness of an individual human being. Our memoirs are an attempt to oppose and defy this deadly leveling of individual human beings. The chapter that deals with the Holocaust ("The Maelstrom: To Auschwitz and Beyond") is preceded by a chapter on our childhoods in which we carefully portray the texture of rural life in two European villages, one in Hungary where Bernie lived, and one in Germany where I grew up. In the case of Bernie' s Orthodox family, we try to create portraits of people for whom no physical memorabilia exist. The only documented proof of Bernie' s existence before the age of thirteen is his name as it appears in the Nazi lists of inmates to enter the Mauthausen concentration camp to which he was transferred in September, 1944. We did not end our memoirs with the close of WWII, because our subsequent lives as Americans are essential to who we are today. America provided us with a playing field to develop our individual talents, live our personal lives freely and to pursue careers of our choosing. In writing the book we did not let Hitler's timetable for the destruction of the Jews decide when our stories should begin or end.

Was the writing of these memoirs difficult for you?

Tubach: It wasn' t easy, although Bernie and I had no personal problems with each other, none at all. After all, we were friends. But we each had problems with ourselves. By the time we finished the manuscript, Bernie opened himself up more and more to the emotions that lay hidden behind his accounts--the suffering, the horror of it all. It was hard for him at times to "stab into his memory bank" as he called it, to confront what emerged for him out of his past. In some cases we were more than two years into our work together before these fragmentary recalls from his past emerged. Consequently, certain episodes have a particular glow and intensity. As for myself, I was surprised, unpleasantly at times, at things I had repressed from my youth. Encouraged by Bernie, I confronted them. It was particularly hard to deal with my father, a counter-intelligence officer in the German General Staff on Guernsey and an active member of the Nazi party since 1933. As time went on I became more and more aware of how the Nazis tried to mold young minds such as mine. In the book I also pay homage to my stepmother, a convinced anti-Nazi, who had the courage to confront the local Nazi authorities and prevent my admission to the Adolf Hitler School. The process of making ourselves whole was an important part of the process of writing, and the process has not ended, even now. It probably never will for our generation that lived through these horrid times.

What, in your opinion, did Germans know about the Holocaust at the time?

Tubach: The enormity of the Holocaust sometimes persuades people to accept simple, comprehensive answers, without "ifs" and "buts". On the one extreme there is Daniel Goldhagen, who believes that virtually all Germans shared the mentality of willing executioners of the Jews, and on the other are those who claim that only a handful of people, led by the Nazi top echelon, were guilty. I think that neither extreme is tenable. In our book, I speak for myself and for others I knew in my youth.

What is your opinion of contemporary Germany in relation to its Nazi past?

Tubach: I am aware that many people will never forgive Germany its past sins, and I can understand that point of view. But I think this view becomes less acceptable the more time passes. Since the end of WWII, more than two generations of Germans have lived in a civil society. Democracy has taken root. Americanization as well, for better or worse. A younger generation is in charge. Germany has changed much more than, say, France, in the last half century. Problems of racial and ethnic conflict remain, to be sure--especially in the new eastern provinces--that are not dissimilar to hate crimes in other European countries or America, although they receive more media attention. Following these incidents, large public protests often occur in Germany, more so than America or other countries. I think that the majority of Germans are particularly sensitive to the excesses of the extreme right. When Bernie and I visited Germany together in 1997, he noticed that far more had been done in Germany to commemorate the Jews than had been done in his native Hungary.

How did you and Bernie meet and become friends in the first place?

Tubach: It was a chance coincidence of the type that happens only rarely in a lifetime. Our wives had attended high school together in Los Angeles but had lost sight of each other for twenty years when they ran into each other one day in a local pharmacy. When they realized they had both married European men about 15 years older whose first wives had died of cancer leaving orphaned children, they decided we should all get together. We hadn' t known it, but we were living at that time within five blocks of each other in the same neighborhood. Our common interests as well as the openness and vitality of the Bay Area made our friendship quite natural. But it was over ten years before Bernie and I started talking to each other about our pasts.

What is the relevance of your book today?

Tubach: With ethnic, religious and nationalistic determinism on the rise all over the world, our story is proof that our shared common humanity might have a chance. Solutions will require improved economic conditions, of course, but just as important are one-to-one encounters--Israelis with Palestinians, Irish Catholics with Protestants, Bosnian Muslims with Serbian Orthodox Christians, Pakistanis with Indians, American blacks with whites, and so on--that prevent people from reducing complex problems to "us vs. them." Once you know an individual from a different group well, at least you can no longer reduce him/her and his/her family to something one-dimensional.

Interview with Bernat Rosner


How do you feel about Germans and Germany?

Bernat Rosner: I am uncomfortable about generalizations based on race, ethnic origin or nationality. I reject any concept of collective or mass guilt. To a large extent that concept forms the underpinning and basis for all of the horrors of anti-Semitism and the Holocaust. At the same time I believe that it is important for all people--not just Germans--to understand why and how a community or nation--including a civilized nation that produced such giants as Goethe, Schiller and Beethoven--could end up being governed by people such as Hitler and his followers.

Are you angry about what the Nazis did to Jews in general and your family in particular?

Brosner: I am not angry, but as far as the individuals responsible for the horrors of Auschwitz and the Holocaust are concerned, I most certainly believe that they should have been made to suffer at least a fraction of the hurt and anguish that they inflicted on their victims. I have always been a great believer in getting on with my life and being angry is not an effective way of accomplishing this. I suppose one way to summarize my attitude is to quote the old American homily, "Don' t get mad--get even." That is exactly what the Israelis did when they grabbed Eichmann and brought him to trial.

How was the slaughter of the Jews of Hungary allowed to happen?

Brosner: Outside help to prevent it was not available or forthcoming, for reasons for which there are no clear answers even today. As far as what the Jews of Hungary could have done for themselves, when you consider that much of the Jewish population consisted of families with the usual mix of elderly parents, grandparents, little children, etc., who were born and rooted in their communities leading peaceful lives, their means of resisting or escaping from the onslaught of well-armed vicious thugs were quite limited. Also there was no place to which they could practically escape or that would accept them. Finally, like most people, they did not want to face up to the stark reality of what was waiting for them.

Why did you want your story told in a third person narrative form?

Brosner: Different survivors have different ways of coping with their pasts. My friend Simcha, for example, who was my buddy during most of the time that we were in the camps--you could not possibly have survived without a buddy system--simply will not talk about his experiences, not even to his wife and children. My way has been to pretend that it all happened to someone other than me. The format of the book is in large part due to the concept that the "Bernie" of the story is not the same person as I am, that all the horror of those earlier years happened to someone else.

Did the Holocaust change your relationship to your religion?

Brosner: During my time in the concentration camps I retained my deep faith, although obviously I could not practice it. The change in my religious attitude came shortly after the war. During this time I was in an orphanage in Italy, which was run by Palestinian Jews who served in the British Army, and who after the war made it their mission to gather the survivors of the Holocaust and bring them to the country that later became the State of Israel. These individuals were idealistic, dedicated and highly motivated, but their Jewishness was secular and socialistic rather than religious. Rightly or wrongly, they felt, and I was persuaded, that the deeply religious Orthodox life was associated with persecution and victimhood, whereas the Jew that was needed to build a new country required a secular, vigorous, and assertive people, who were the very opposite of the stereotyped timid and bookish Jews of the old Eastern European ghettoes.

You were just a little over twelve years old when you ended up in Auschwitz. How do you think you were able to survive?

Brosner: There are several reasons. In fact, my youth was actually a plus. Kids a few years older than me were in the middle of the rapid physical growth of adolescence, and the lack of adequate nutrition and the other deprivations quickly caused them to succumb to tuberculosis and other diseases. Most of them died quickly. I simply stopped growing and my body required less food to survive. But maybe more importantly, I was apparently born with a very sharply honed instinct for survival. I don' t mean anything heroic; it is rather more of an uncanny ability to adapt and to roll with the punches. Several years ago when I visited a tide pool on the California coast, I noticed a tiny shelled creature safely burrowed into the crevice of the rock when a huge wave came crashing in over it. I instinctively said to myself, "That guy clinging to the rock is me."

But anybody who reads the book will find a number of instances where my survival was simply due to chance and fate. Probably the most dramatic illustration of this was the day of our arrival in Auschwitz. When we were unloaded from the cattle-car, my father, who had been designated in charge of our car, was immediately ordered to report to the authorities. So he left us, and I never saw him again. My mother, younger brother and I were still together when the guards announced that males and females should separate because we would be taking showers. My mother, becoming frightened and nervous, wanted us to stay together, but I indignantly told her that I would not take a shower with a bunch of women. She then said to me, "Whatever you do, don' t get separated from your brother." Those parting words were the last she ever spoke to me. So my brother and I were lined up with the other males on the platform in front of two SS officers. They were the ones who directed the people standing in line to go to the right or the left, depending on their physical condition, age, height, and so on. My brother, who was ten, was in front of me in the line, and the selecting officer, without hesitation sent him to the left. Heeding my mother' s admonition, I automatically followed my brother to the left. At first the German did nothing. But apparently out of irritation at my making my own decision, when I was about three steps past him, he reached out and grabbed me by the scruff of the neck and shoved me to the right. If I had been permitted to follow my brother, I would have been in the gas chamber with the rest of my family within the hour.

What caused you to tell your story at this late date? Why do it now?

Brosner: I did not tell my story earlier mainly because until I retired in 1993 as General Counsel of the Safeway Corporation, I had a rather busy time of it. During the early years of my life in America, I was busy learning the language, adapting to the culture and getting an education. I also served a two-year stint in the Army during the Korean War. When I got out of law school, I started a busy 35-year career that involved virtually every aspect of American corporate life, from takeovers and leveraged buyouts to complex litigation, to being the chief legal officer of a Fortune 500 corporation. During the middle of my career I lost my wife to cancer and had to raise three teen-age boys single-handedly. The reason for finally getting around to telling my story is due mainly to a feeling of obligation, primarily to my children, that they and my friends should know both my personal story and the tumultuous events that served as the backdrop to that story.

Do you believe that the world has learned from the Holocaust?

Brosner: Obviously, not enough. All you have to do is read the newspaper or watch the news on TV to know that unspeakable crimes and atrocities motivated by ethnic and racial hatred are still being committed. But I also have some hope for the future of mankind. In our own country, I believe that in the last thirty-some years we have made major strides toward a more tolerant and just society. I believe the same is true in most of the civilized countries of Western Europe. I also believe that, at least in these countries, the experience of the Holocaust has played a role in sensitizing the majority of the people to the evils of racism and ethnic hatred.

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