And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School

And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School

by Judith Warner

Narrated by Judith Warner

Unabridged — 7 hours, 39 minutes

And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School

And Then They Stopped Talking to Me: Making Sense of Middle School

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Narrated by Judith Warner

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Overview

Through the stories of kids and parents in the middle school trenches, a New York Times bestselling author reveals why these years are so painful, how parents unwittingly make them worse, and what we all need to do to grow up.

“As the parent of a middle schooler, I felt as if Judith Warner had peered into my life-and the lives of many of my patients. This is a gift to our kids and their future selves.”-Lori Gottlieb, author of*Maybe You Should Talk to Someone

The French have a name for the uniquely hellish years between elementary school and high school: l'âge ingrat, or “the ugly age.” Characterized by a perfect storm of developmental changes-physical, psychological, and social-the middle school years are a time of great distress for children and parents alike, marked by hurt, isolation, exclusion, competition, anxiety, and often outright cruelty. Some of this is inevitable; there are intrinsic challenges to early adolescence. But these years are harder than they need to be, and Judith Warner believes that adults are complicit.

With deep insight and compassion, Warner walks us through a new understanding of the role that middle school plays in all our lives. She argues that today's helicopter parents are overly concerned with status and achievement-in some ways a residual effect of their own middle school experiences-and that this worsens the self-consciousness, self-absorption, and social “sorting” so typical of early adolescence.*

Tracing a century of research on middle childhood and bringing together the voices of social scientists, psychologists, educators, and parents, Warner's book shows how adults can be moral role models for children, making them more empathetic, caring, and resilient. She encourages us to start treating middle schoolers as the complex people they are, holding them to high standards of kindness, and helping them see one another as more than “jocks and mean girls, nerds and sluts.”

Part cultural critique and part call to action, this essential book unpacks one of life's most formative periods and shows how we can help our children not only survive it but thrive.

Editorial Reviews

The New York Times Book Review - Shannon Hale

…accomplished and highly readable…It is the caregivers of current middle schoolers who might gain the most solace and insight from [And Then They Stopped Talking to Me], those who find that shepherding children through what was once called junior high brings back their own trauma in unexpectedly painful ways…In her nonjudgmental, accessible style, Warner shows how for so many of us, our "narrative identity" is greatly affected by what we suffered in middle school, and since our perceptions during those years are undoubtedly distorted, so too might be our sense of self.

From the Publisher

Fascinating . . . well researched . . . Judith Warner interviews scores of fellow middle school survivors in her accomplished and highly readable new book. . . . She also gets personal with her tales of middle school woe—both as a former student and as a parent.”—Shannon Hale, The New York Times Book Review
 
“With clarity, compassion, and insight, And Then They Stopped Talking to Me brilliantly captures the landscape of kids’ experiences today and the psychological, familial, and cultural forces shaping them. Along the way, Warner debunks age-old myths and offers practical guidance that every parent can use. This is a gift to our kids and their future selves.”—Lori Gottlieb, author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone

“Judith Warner offers both fascinating social history and practical advice on a life-stage that sends many adults into a PTSD spiral. She shows how, by compassionately revisiting their own pasts, parents can truly support early adolescents in developing the building blocks for long-term happiness.”—Peggy Orenstein, author of Boys & Sex and Girls & Sex

“I don’t know a single adult who did not feel alone, insecure, or deeply self-conscious in middle school. Warner puts the pieces of the puzzle together to show us just how not-alone we were.”—Rachel Simmons, author of Odd Girl Out and Enough As She Is

“I have often advised parents not to allow themselves to be sucked back into middle school when they see their children’s distress or hear their war stories. But I had no guidebook to offer them. Now I do.”—Michael G. Thompson, co-author of Raising Cain

“Warner has written a compulsively readable book . . . I only wish I’d had it on my bedside table when my own kids were adolescents. But I’d actually recommend it for parents at any stage, as it holds a mirror up to us as much as to our kids.”—Anne-Marie Slaughter, author of Unfinished Business: Women Men Work Family
 
 “I learned a tremendous amount reading this book!”—Rosalind Wiseman, author of Queen Bees & Wannabes and Masterminds & Wingmen
 
 “Judith Warner’s remarkable, compassionate, fascinating look at the terrifying abyss that is called middle school has given me a perspective and insight that I only wish I’d had decades ago. It’s a must.”—Ayelet Waldman, author of Bad Mother and A Really Good Day
 
“An indispensable parents’ companion for navigating one of the most challenging and extraordinary stages in life.”—Madeline Levine, author of The Price of Privilege and Ready or Not

Library Journal

03/01/2020

The middle school years are a stage of cognitive, behavioral, and social development during which the rapid brain changes rival those that occurred in the first three years of life. In addition, identifying with children's social trauma during this period can lead to secondary trauma in adults as past issues from their own lives are triggered. Warner (We've Got Issues: Children and Parents in the Age of Medication) further states that middle age, which many parents reach during the middle school years, is marked with similar struggles about status and identity. Growth can be fostered, says Warner, by letting go of our need to achieve our own goals through our children, understanding the complexity of kids' brains during this crucial era, providing context to help them make sense of the world and people around them, and raising rather than lowering our standards. VERDICT A fascinating entry on the middle school years and the struggles both children and adults face during this time. The addition of bulleted takeaways at the end of each chapter would have enhanced what is occasionally a dense read for busy parents.

Kirkus Reviews

2020-01-16
In this call for change, a bestselling author examines the often painful middle school years and offers parents sound advice that will enable their children to become more empathetic, caring, and resilient.

This book stems from Warner’s unrelenting desire to find good explanations for what her middle school–age daughter was experiencing, why the parents and other children were behaving as they were, and what she could do to improve the situation. Over the course of two years, the author interviewed more than 100 people, including experts, educators, parents, and nonparents, from a wide variety of backgrounds and ages. With few exceptions, what she found was a shared sense of social struggle. In order to provide a better understanding of the middle school years, Warner begins by exploring the societal history of the 11- to 14-year-old age group from Colonial America to the present. She points out that the view of this age group has shifted over time and that mass media has contributed to many of the myths and negatives stereotypes often associated with middle schoolers. Warner also cites research indicating that our own memories of middle school may be inaccurate or incomplete. According to scientists, there is a “second critical period” of brain development during adolescence. For this reason, we were incapable of seeing the big picture without the help of adults—and our children are facing the same thing. The author stresses that parents should view middle schoolers as “works in progress” and help them develop the tools they need to thrive by teaching and modeling the ability to think and feel beyond themselves. Warner argues that the great danger facing middle schoolers today is the values (or lack thereof) that we are teaching them. “Selfishness, competition, and personal success at any cost” must be replaced with new norms. “By rethinking the middle school years,” she writes, “we have the opportunity to become better and happier adults.”

Certain relief, for middle schoolers and their parents, from the discomfort associated with a difficult period in life.

Product Details

BN ID: 2940179041672
Publisher: Penguin Random House
Publication date: 05/05/2020
Edition description: Unabridged

Read an Excerpt

We’ve all been there.

It might have happened last week.

Picking up your son outside his middle school, you watched as he stood on the sidewalk while his classmates swirled around him, leaving for sleepovers, birthday celebrations, or impromptu parties that came together right under his nose. His frozen smile as he stood there, hanging in until the last minute in the hope that an invitation might come his way, made you crumble inside. As did the knowledge that, other than try to offer up an alternative weekend plan for family fun—which he would undoubtedly dismiss as “just sad”—there was nothing you could do to help.

It might have happened last year.

You bought your daughter a too-expensive white Abercrombie dress for her eighth-grade graduation because, she said, “everybody” was wearing one, and you knew how badly she wanted to fit in. But, on the morning of the ceremony, when she went to join her classmates, you realized that “everybody” was, in fact, only the clique of rich, popular girls who had dropped her two years earlier. They were all lined up, posing as their parents snapped pictures. When they saw your daughter walking toward them, they burst into laughter. And their parents—who, not so long ago, had been your friends—laughed, too.

Or it might have happened a long time ago.

You walked into your seventh-grade homeroom on the first day of school a couple of minutes late and saw that everyone was pushing desks together into friend-group clusters. Your best friend was waiting for you, but now the two of you made just a lonely little desk dyad, and all your other friends seemed, very happily, to have moved on. As the teacher took attendance, you wondered: Had some new friendship map been drawn up over the summer? Would there ever be an opportunity to reconfigure the geometry? You didn’t look at your friend, and she didn’t look at you, but as you both sat there uncomfortably, you knew that she was wondering the very same thing.

Middle school is brutal. Ask just about anyone, and they’ll very likely tell you it was the worst time of their life—if they’ll tell you anything at all. If they don’t, as is so common, simply let out a cry of “Raging hormones!” and cut off the conversation.

The awfulness of the middle school years—ages 11 to 14 for kids these days, 12 to 14 or 15 for adults, if they’re old enough to have attended what in previous generations was seventh-to-ninth-grade junior high—is a given in our country. Suffering through is almost a rite of passage—a modern American initiation ritual marking the transition from a life mostly lived in the warm bubble of home to one that’s spent in the colder, sometimes cruel, and always competitive company of peers. Scratch the surface with most people and you’ll get a well-remembered anecdote, its details fresh and its telling almost automatic, the way stories told over and over again in the mind often are, particularly when they contain a form of trauma. Which, for a great many people, middle school truly is.

For a long time, I thought that there was no greater pain possible than the agonies I’d experienced in seventh and eighth grade. The whispers and giggles. The anonymous “slam books,” in which everyone wrote what they really thought about you. Having my oh-so-private journal read out loud before French class. Having my every self-conscious habit—licking the front of my braces, chewing my lower lip, biting my nails, pulling in my stomach each time I passed a mirror—mocked and imitated. Being “dumped” by my first “boyfriend.” Coming in one morning in eighth grade to find that, with no warning and for no apparent reason, none of my friends would talk to me, look at me, or even tolerate being in the same room with me—and no one would tell me why.

I can still remember how it felt: The ground disappearing beneath my feet. Not a single friendly face. Not a word of recognition, much less reassurance. It was like one of those bad dreams where you’re shouting and shouting, and no sound comes out of your mouth. I felt utterly abandoned and completely powerless. I was in a black hole of pain, and it seemed like there was no outside to it.

I was fortunate in that—unusually for that time—our concerned homeroom teacher soon stepped in and brokered a conversation to try to clear the air. He put me at one end of his classroom.

At the other end sat my longtime nemesis, Marci, flanked on either side by Anna and Jill, whom I had, apparently, deeply offended.

Anna, my until-that-week very good friend, was so angry, so utterly disgusted with the mere fact of my existence, that she couldn’t even lift her head off the desk where it rested between her crossed arms to look at me. Jill sat sort of blank-faced, while Marci graciously leaned forward to speak for them. Her hands were clasped daintily before her as she spoke, soft-voiced and with a sweet expression, just one bright red spot on each cheek betraying the high emotion she was otherwise masterfully keeping in check.

It was a command performance—far more subtle and sophisticated than anything I had ever seen from her before in the nine years we’d spent in the same school. On our first Girl Scout camping weekend, for example, her cheeks had flushed completely and floridly scarlet red when I’d walked into our cabin, just before dinner, and she’d led everyone else in stomping out. It had been my very first ground-disappearing-beneath-my-feet moment. It had also been my first time away from home. Marci had been my bus seatmate and had watched me try to hold back my tears as we’d pulled away from the curb and I’d waved goodbye to my mom. She was 9 or 10 months older than me—which was a lot at the time—and was a lot more sophisticated, if “sophisticated” is a word you can apply to a 9-year-old.

I never found out what I did wrong that weekend. But now, in that eighth-grade classroom, my crimes were elaborated: (1) I thought I was better than everyone else. (2) I didn’t say hello in the hallways. (3) I looked through people when they said hello to me, like they weren’t even there.

This was news to me. I thought: (1) I didn’t think I was better than anyone else—I hated myself! (2) I wasn’t aware of not saying hello in the hallways. (3) If I looked straight through people, it wasn’t because I meant to snub them; it was just—how to explain this?—that I didn’t see them. I was smart enough not to make that latter point out loud. I just apologized. I promised to try to do better. And I did, after that, try my hardest to remove my head from my ass long enough to acknowledge the existence of other people—a struggle that continues to this day.

In the end, thanks to our teacher’s intervention, my time in the wilderness lasted for only about a week. But my very acute recollection of how that week felt lasted for decades. For many years afterward, the episode showed up in my dreams. The actors would be different—I didn’t think about my middle school classmates anymore—but the experience, and above all the feeling, was precisely the same. All through my 20s, and even into my 30s and early 40s, I felt compelled to regularly ask my close friends if they were mad at me. The fear that, from one day to the next and for reasons unknown, someone could turn on me, stop talking to me, and start hating me was simply part of who I was.

My daughter never had experiences quite like that in middle school. Neither, thankfully, did she encounter the all-out horrors that some of today’s middle schoolers do: Extended online bullying. Cruel insults. Sexual violence. Death threats. But she did suffer. She was different at a time of life when the secret to social success is fitting in seamlessly. And when she had her own friendship struggles in seventh and eighth grade, in the course of which she ended up going through one very long period of isolation, I learned that watching your child be rejected socially can be a form of misery that’s every bit as bad as being a middle schooler yourself.

I said and did the right things most of the time: encouraged her to talk things out, to make new friends, to seek help from the school counselor, to hang out and have family time on weekends. She dismissed most of those suggestions as “useless.”

She asked me to intervene and try to work things out with the other moms. I told her that parents didn’t do that in middle school. But the truth was that I had tried. When the trouble had started between her and another girl in her small friend group, I had approached the girl’s mom, Julie, whom I considered a friend, to ask if perhaps the four of us—the two women and our two daughters—could go out to lunch. I thought maybe she and I could team up, put our heads together and come up with a way to say to the girls:

Get it together. You have eighteen months left in each other’s presence. You can make them miserable, or you can make them decent. We vote for decent.

Here’s how to proceed: You will be nice. You will be pleasant. You will be polite and considerate. You will co-exist—which, since you’re part of the same group, means you will have to share friends. I had a model in mind for this. A few years earlier, one of my closest friends, Anne, had convened such a lunch when my daughter and her daughter, Isabel, were having some issues in school. Isabel was saying things that were upsetting my daughter. My daughter kept crying and going to the teacher, who was known to play favorites. Isabel kept getting in trouble for saying things that, Anne knew, were far less malicious than clueless. She suggested over lo mein that there might be better ways to communicate and handle conflicts. We made some suggestions. Everyone agreed.

And that was that.

I kind of gulped out the basic idea one morning when Julie and I ran into each other on the street. In my head, it had seemed logical. Out in the air, it seemed awkward, beseeching. It was not well received. Better to let the school handle things, Julie said, with a notable lack of warmth in her eyes. Better not to get involved. Better to let the girls sort things out. “They’re all just trying to figure out who they are,” she said.

I remember thinking that it was undoubtedly a mark of intellectual superiority to have been able to generate—and find meaning in—that particular sentence. But I couldn’t really disagree. After all, I’d listened at Back to School Night. I knew that parents shouldn’t get involved in sorting out their kids’ business, especially in middle school. School business was school business, and over the years I’d actually seen the school step in with other people’s kids, to good effect.

So I tried to do what I was supposed to do. I did my utmost to take a back seat. To promote independent problem solving. To stay in my lane. I tried not to “interview for pain.” Julie and I encouraged the girls to seek out the school counselor, who then emailed Julie and me to “commend” us for our “wisdom” in encouraging our daughters to work out their problems at school, “with adult help, but essentially independently.”

A couple of years before, when my daughter had been in fifth grade, that same counselor had almost cried while telling me about a “friendship group” meeting she had run with the girls in the class. My daughter hadn’t been involved in whatever crise du jour had precipitated the intervention; she, like many of the others, had been required to attend so that the adults could maintain the fiction that what was going on was “everybody’s” problem. In fact, at that point, she’d been somewhat young for her age and needed more time to master, or even pick up on, the social intricacies of high-level girl drama. So she had sat there, uncomfortably, wearing a cherished pair of green rubber rain boots with frog faces on the tips, while her more advanced classmates, already all but interchangeable with their straightened hair and Uggs, had eaten one another alive. The counselor had had tears in her eyes, talking about my daughter’s footwear, because once upon a time, in a different era, in a different place, and with different shoes, she had been that froggy-booted girl, too.

By eighth grade, my daughter and Julie’s daughter were running circles around this counselor, managing to be extremely busy and/or filled with nothing but the most benevolent thoughts toward each other every time she tried to make an appointment to meet with them. I was spending every moment of my driving time listening to Stephen King’s Carrie and fantasizing about pyrokinesis.

Over and over again in yoga, I set an “intention” at the start of my practice to become a positive, joyful, and comforting presence in my daughter’s life. But no amount of Ujjayi breath could shake my Carrie-like vibe. Particularly once, toward the very end of the year, another mom made an offhand and well-meaning comment that truly made me feel like I, too, was back in eighth grade.

She paused alongside me for a moment just outside of school, watching my daughter chat with her friends. My daughter was “in” and “out” all the time at that point, and we happened to be observing an “in” moment.

“You know, the girls would have been just fine,” the woman said, “if only the moms hadn’t gotten involved.”

Involved?

Yes, involved. In every single aspect of the girls’ social interactions and school lives. “The moms weighed in so heavily,” she said, “and instead of giving the girls the space to work things out, they brought it up to a whole new level that almost made it impossible for them to find a way out.”

She actually told me that last bit a few years later, when I was writing this book. At the end of eighth grade, however, the conversation had ended with the word “involved.” And I felt like a fool. “Useless,” indeed. And pretty damn mad.

But I really shouldn’t have been surprised.

The parental-involvement revelation wasn’t the first “I can’t believe this” moment I’d had as the mother of a middle schooler. Over the years, there had been so many things that I’d experienced, witnessed, or been told about that had simply seemed crazy. There was the time I got a lecture on “social codes” from the mother of a popular girl when my daughter bought a party dress, at the height of bar and bat mitzvah season, that had already been “claimed” by her daughter. (The girl herself called me a few minutes later. “Please forget it,” she said. I can still, to this day, hear her tearful voice pleading while her mother made protesting noises in the background. “I didn’t want her to say anything.”) There was the time another mom brought in a professional hip-hop dance coach to teach the girls in the class some choreography for the school talent show, inciting a cabal of stone-faced moms to gather to watch the dance practices and then march to the principal’s office to complain that their daughters were being trained to behave like “sluts.” (The girls were thrilled. The show went on. My un-dance-educated daughter gestured a bit too wildly during the number and sent all her bangles flying off the stage.) And there was the dad who bragged that he’d signed a big check to reserve a “cool” kids’ table for him, his wife, and their friends at a school auction.

The weirdness wasn’t just contained to parents; other adults had their issues, too. There were a couple of academic-subject teachers who had repeatedly been overheard making nasty comments about girls’ “big boobs” or detestable skinniness. There was a gym teacher who often lost it with the eighth graders, making them sit silently on the floor, their backs to the wall, for entire class periods, while he berated them for letting their “drama” leak into the time they were supposed to be devoting to PE. (“All the teachers were constantly telling us how ‘bad’ we were as a class,” my daughter recently told me. “Maybe we were,” she reflected, “but being told that all the time didn’t help.”)

I had no right, really, to dole out judgments about boundaries. I had spent my middle school parenthood years cataloging hurts and snubs that my daughter wasn’t even aware of: how others looked at her; whether or not they held doors for her; whether they sat with her, spoke to her, settled in next to her or scuttled away. My husband had, too. With his far more finely attuned social radar, he was constantly scanning the horizon for evidence of exclusion—and then prodding me to do something about it.

It was hell. We were all in hell. It was no accident that I was driving around listening to the story of an insane 1970s teenager with the power to channel her rage and hurt into murder. We were all going through middle school together, thinking and feeling and behaving like selfish, self-protective, and, above all, un-self-aware 12-and 13-year-olds. It was no wonder that so many of the kids—boys and girls alike—were struggling so greatly, despite all the careful social orchestrations and emotional ministrations of their attentive parents. The inmates were running the asylum. Life really was, as the women around me so often put it, “seventh grade all over again.”

In the midst of all this, I was supposed to be working on a book proposal about modern women in midlife. A kind of Perfect Madness redux. But something else kept making noise in my head. Floundering deep in middle-school-mom misery, I yearned for good explanations for what my daughter was living through, why parents and kids were behaving as they were, and what I could do to make things better. I had no information—nothing useful to read, no relevant advice, and no insights from the parents around me, who by seventh or eighth grade were too locked into face-saving competition and proxy wars to permit any potentially damaging self-disclosures.

What I really wanted were explanations from experts who could answer the specific questions forming in my mind: Why, precisely, were the middle school years so awful? Had they always been this way? Were they this way everywhere? How much was about middle school per se, and how much was about middle school in a high-achieving—and highly competitive—American enclave? What was going on in the heads of the kids I saw parading by at school—the boys with their hair in their eyes, the girls in shoulder-to-shoulder symbiosis? What was going on in the heads of their parents?

Not so many years earlier, when my daughter was in the elementary grades, I would simply have asked around. Or not even—the conversations would have started spontaneously. But in the middle school years, there were fewer opportunities for those kinds of easy exchanges. The kids were more independent, and even on the occasions when parents did come together, the atmosphere was different. There was more distance and, seemingly, more distrust.

Each school year would start with a sense of dread, as the parents girded themselves for what everyone knew would be the very worst time in their children’s lives. Well before the first day, the sighing and anticipatory eye-rolling would begin, along with an uptick in gossip. By the time the semester began, there would be whispers of “drama”—not just among the kids, but among the adults as well.

At those times, I’d email out Anne Lamott’s quote about “hell and the pit.”

The moms in particular loved it. It was “perfect,” they said.

And yet no one—including me—ever talked directly about what we were feeling, or asked if there was any way to try to change the general atmosphere. A lot of the parent relationships by this point had started to fray. There were so many competing agendas, so much polluted water under the bridge. Nobody was even bothering to be fake anymore. Even at school-sponsored grade events, the former talk of “our kids,” “our classroom,” and “our community” had noticeably subsided. It was as though the balance between adult ideals and kid realities had shifted. The window of opportunity for teaching our children the rules of kind and thoughtful co-existence appeared to have slammed shut.

The sense of inevitability was so deep—that sixth, seventh, and eighth graders were destined to be mean; that middle school sucks, sucked, and will always suck—that it was inconceivable that adults might do anything about it. Except, of course, dig the trenches and start arming their kids to do battle, using many of the same weapons they’d used to defend themselves during their own middle school or junior high years decades earlier.

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